Comments on: Not a woman

By: elizabeth

elizabeth — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:18:52 +0000

well, i wanted to go to a place en donde no pasa nada, so i visited you but it´s the opposite! i am a mother and pissed off for you, while it took strength to get three children out of my body without medication, does that qualify me for some special award? i think not. yeah, children change your life, you deal with annoying young whining voices instead of adult whining voices… but how egotistical is it to think that having children makes you a woman?!! bite her head off and if you can´t i´ll send my tribe of children to do it in your honor.
abrazos,
biz

By: nopasanada

nopasanada — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:18:52 +0000

So today I found out that I wrote this just for my ten minutes of fame. Screw politics, I want to write incendiary blog posts for a living. It’s always been my dream!

But really this topic has been exhausted and I think that most of us have come to the consensus that Mindy said something off the cuff that was edited and then came out wrong. She apologized. And think that most of us are in agreement that giving birth does not a woman make.

The end. Let’s talk about wine. Seriously. I’m wondering about people’s favorite wines so email me and tell me yours: nopasanadablog@gmail.com.

By: JRM

JRM — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:44:51 +0000

It’s on Momversation but it happens in real life ALL the time. Maybe not specifically, and the quote may have been taken out of context, but the thought is there.

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard something along the line of “Oh well, since you don’t have children you wouldn’t understand”. I would be one rich bitch.

By: Vicki

Vicki — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:27:00 +0000

Ignore the ignorant woman. She’s just one of those people who thinks anyone who’s different than she is comes up short somewhere. In this case, she used the words “girl” and “woman”.
As a mom myself, I can honestly say that the only difference between a woman before and after giving birth is the stretch marks and the word “mom”. And if you adopt, you can still be a “mom”. Further, if you overeat, you can still have stretch marks!
What was supposed to be the difference between a girl and a woman again?
To the self-righteous patronizing Ms. Roberts, I say, “Bah humbug. Speak for yourself.”

By: Emma

Emma — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:35:31 +0000

Well, Mindy, since you were kind enough to apologize for insulting tons of women who haven’t given birth, I’ll be big enough to apologize to you.

After watching the momversation with Heather, Dana, and Rebecca re: the childfree, I guess I just figured that if no (or very limited) research is required in taping a momversation, the same standard should be applied in discussing them.

My bad.

By: Mindy

Mindy — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:04:23 +0000

Chris, I never said that a woman has to give birth to be a woman. Ever. I was clear, and some here seems to be assuming I said that because others misunderstood and are now piggybacking each other.

Emma, you didn’t even spend time researching this *post* before commenting. You would have seen that your comment is moot, and frankly, insulting considering the care I have shown in this matter.

By: Sarah

Sarah — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:37:16 +0000

I agree exactly what Summer said.

When I met my husband, he had his future son’s name picked out. When I married him, he still wanted kids. Now over six years later, we have no kids, but two weeks ago he had a vasectomy and I had absolutely no say in that. Yes every person can make his own choices, but did he have to permanently and negatively alter MY future too? I am still very raw about this (as if that’s not obvious) and now I hear people making stupid comments like this.

Oh well, guess I’ll never be a woman.

Hey, does that mean I can get rid of my job and all my bills and my ADULT responsibilities and go eat pudding all day and play in the sandbox? Gosh, that would be nice.

By: Jenna

Jenna — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:26:11 +0000

I have an idea! If you find you don’t like the Momversation episodes and/or might become offended because they are MOM-versations then don’t watch them. If their main audience was directed at all womankind don’t you think they would be named Wom-versations? There are plenty of other websites out there for you all to browse, and police, without having to land on that one.

Personally I believe Mindy that she was stating it like she would to a 7 year old and that they edited a lot of her content out which made it all seem worse. Let me ask you. How else would you describe it to someone who is really too young to understand? And, oh my God hold your bra straps ladies, she’s a mom, so she might just repeat something like she would say to her child since that’s the world she’s surrounded by. She wasn’t talking to the whole of womankind. She was talking to a camera about her feelings and trying to describe something that is rather personal. In efforts to lighten it up a little she used a conversation with a 7 year old as the basis for what she said. In the aftermath of the Mindy lynching that took place she chose to stand up bravely in the face of all the adversity and sincerely apologize to those who she offended AND YET YOU STILL CAN’T LET IT GO! Can’t we all focus on the really tragic things in life. Starving children or something?

Gees ladies! Let it go!

Get over it and move on already!

By: Elana Centor

Elana Centor — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:21:52 +0000

Sometimes we say things that come out wrong. Look what happened to Michelle Obama last summer when she said,. “for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”
Critics pounced on her — give a girl a break. Sometimes just forgetting to say one word changes the entire context of a sentence. I believed Michelle Obama’s explanation and thought the critics were a bunch of vultures who were more interested in advancing their point of view then acknowledging that sometimes the things we say aren’t anywhere close to matching our intent.
In part I think the discussion is very much like the critics of Michelle Obama, even when she clarified, her critics kept on harping on her original statement. Isn’t that what is happening here? Mindy’s statement, taken out of context, is very offensive. But what if someone asked her what she meant before having a feeding frenzy at her expense? Would you still be upset? Or would you have given her the benefit of the doubt?

If after talking with her she had stood by her statement then have at her. She would have deserved this very public tongue lashing. But she realized what she had said was wrong. She apologized. I think people owe her an apology as well.

By: Emma

Emma — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:20:20 +0000

A follow-up episode? Oy vey.
Maybe Momversation should consider sticking with topics they know something about… or can manage spend more than just a single afternoon researching.